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12 years 6 months ago #51701 by Karl
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12 years 6 months ago #51702 by RogerNZ
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We have a big problem in New Zealand where young people with disabilities are going into rest homes but we are meeting with the Ministry Of Health to stop this.

What do others think?

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12 years 5 months ago #52098 by wifepoisonedme
I have a serious problem with rest homes because many rest homes where I live are used to hold people just like prisons, and the people that work these rest homes are paid by the sate to keep innocent disabled people that are victimized by crime drugged up to keep them docile and complaint and to prevent such people from finding help!

Victims of crime done to them by cops for instance get labeled mentally ill, and a corrupt Fascist doctor that wants to help police destroy that person as a witness will label on their paperwork the person is mentally ill, and the person gets locked up without any trial into a rest home and is kept medicated with terrible drugs such as Demerol (I think I am spelling that correctly, not sure though) and Demerol is a drug our government uses on people they want to disfigure, it disfigures the persons face, and they are unable to function normally.

Rest homes in Portland Oregon and around the outskirts of town are nothing but prisons with tall fences to keep people in with locked gates that require people to get buzzed in in order to enter or leave.

After being on Demerol for a few years a normal looking person will stat to appear retarded facially because of that drug!

Notice how your news media is mums the word on that drug and the effects it has physically on a person.

Rest homes are prisons where people do not commit crimes and get no trial or conviction of anything, but still get locked up and forgotten anyway!

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12 years 5 months ago #52119 by BUBBADOG14
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It really comes to something when people in prison get better treated than the elderly! These elderly people are the ones who fought wars to save our country and this is the way we treat them! I know now why these persistent offenders and homeless people go breaking the law they get better lives in jail!! The government need to get off their over paid lazy arses and do something about this!!

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12 years 5 months ago #52128 by Sandie
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I think I shall take myself off to Dignitas, long before I need the so called services, or a bed in a so called Rest Home, there are people resting there, but its not the residents. :angry:

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12 years 5 months ago #52131 by wifepoisonedme
People in prison do not have it better than people in rest homes, to compare the two is impossible, it is like comparing apples to oranges.
Most people in prison fear for their lives and have to change in order to survive in prison, most people that have never been in prison have no idea what prison is like other than what they know from made up TV shows and made up pretend Hollywood movies.

Many people in prison get killed while in prison, most of THOSE deaths are covered up by the government by police and by doctors faking a natural death on their paperwork, OH how our government loves whipping up falsified documents to cover their butts.

Everyone blindly believes in TV news and Hollywood hype that most so-called "Normal" people are actually living fairy tail lives thinking the world works this way or that way based on what they learn from TV or from Hollywood movies!

People in prison do not necessarily have it better than people in rest homes, many people in rest homes are kept ill by drug prescriptions and are so debilitated and in such shock over it and literally have no one to turn to for help.

I had relatives in rest homes, those rest homes I witnessed first hand were hell holes designed to warehouse debilitated people that were kept drugged up to silence them and to make them docile and compliant.

To me that is no rest home, that is a type of prison designed not to hold people convicted of crimes, but to hold people that are debilitated and to keep them that way.

As far as prisons go those are total hell holes especially for innocent people that get railroaded into them by corrupt courts, guards are corrupt, gangs are openly organized within prisons, and killings and torture go on as a every day thing in prisons, and there is no one within prisons with valid complaints a prisoner can turn to for help.

Going to prison is like going to another country where all the things you learned your whole life have no meaning any more, there are new laws, new rules, which have to be adhered to, or else BAD things happen.

Hardened criminals mostly already have it kind of easy in prison, they pretty much run the prisons as long as they cater to the police/guards, they understand the politics within prisons, but most people that get railroaded into prison do not even deserve to be there and were just railroaded into them by a corrupt system and a deliberate news media always looks the other way on such corruption.

To put faith in the system to "Do the right thing" is just childish minded and unfortunately most people fall for and believe in all the media hype as to how this world works.

Prison is not like how it's portrayed by Hollywood and by TV shows, and neither is rest homes, their both way worse than people can imagine, and I feel sorry for them.

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12 years 5 months ago #52133 by RogerNZ
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In New Zealand here we have a big problem with young people with disabilities in Rest Homes it has been going on for years, we are trying to do something to stop it with the Ministry of Health etc.

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12 years 5 months ago #52134 by wifepoisonedme
In Portland Oregon the local government uses resat homes to lock up disabled young people and literally treat rest homes as though they are prisons they can use to lock people up with without bothering with trials.

Many people get victimized in Portland Oregon by out of control sting operations and many young people become victims to out of control police sting operations and many people become poisoned by such sting operations here in Portland Oregon.

My older brother was victimized by a sting operation when he was only a child, he was getting poisoned by people that were involved in that sting operation, he tried finding help and no one cared, he got battered by police for trying to find help, and the government, without any trial or conviction or anything labeled my brother mentally ill and ,locked him up in a rest home and he was kept doped up continuously to keep him docile and compliant and obedient.

Police sting operations in Portland Oregon are nothing more than organized criminals within the system that are free to destroy people with impunity and police refuse to even take complaints about sting operations and just smirk at people that complain and immediately label anyone that complains as mentally ill.

So in Portland Oregon the local government uses rest homes ad a way of "Getting rid of people" and a way of "Silencing complaints" without any form of trial or due process.

Sting operations in Portland Oregon victimize so many people and no one even takes complaints on them, official denial is the norm with our local corrupt government.

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12 years 5 months ago #52135 by wifepoisonedme
Victims of corrupt sating operations tend to get locked up in so-called rest homes and our corrupt government uses rest homes as a way of getting rid of people without the need for trials or due process.

If you believe that cops are always "Good Guys" that never lie and never do anything wrong then you should really Wiki the definition of the term "Sting Operation" and discover the fact that not only do police lie and deceive people, they also recruit civilians into helping them to lie and deceive people.

Wiki the definition, they don't hide the fact they are liars and deceive people and trick people, it's all a part of their official way of doing things.

When it comes to sting operations police do not even try to hide the fact they and their civilian operatives are liars and that they stage crimes, well they don't really try to hide the fact that anyone they victimize gets labeled mentally ill and goes straight to rest homes where they are locked up like criminals without any trial or due process, and they are kept doped up (Many times they get poisoned) to keep them silent and obedient and quiet.

Victims and witnesses to corrupt sting operations get locked up without trials, and civilian doctors lie for police and will label victims of sting operations as mentally ill as a way of locking that person up with no trial and usually that person does not come out alive.

This is how it is in Portland Oregon, I am a witness and victim of such tactics and I am not their only victim.

Sting operations are all about government being organized and staging and committing crimes and about lying for one another and sting operatives cover for one another, and sting operations in Portland Oregon get rid of a lot of people via rest homes without the need of t5rials or due process.

Do not take just my word on it, Wiki "Sting Operation" and discover for yourself how corrupt government officer's and their recruited civilian operatives are, they admit they lie and deceive people.

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12 years 5 months ago #52151 by Karl
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wifepoisonedme wrote: People in prison do not have it better than people in rest homes, to compare the two is impossible, it is like comparing apples to oranges.


Are you sure about this?

The elderly are given drugs so they can sleep more so its less work for the staff.

The elderly are abuse by the staff

The elderly are left in their own waste

The elderly get poor and cold meals

The elderly in their own home only get a microwave meal. As the carers don't have enough time to cook them a meal

The elderly in their own home get abuse and rob

Do I need to say anymore?

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12 years 5 months ago #52154 by wifepoisonedme

Karl wrote:

wifepoisonedme wrote: People in prison do not have it better than people in rest homes, to compare the two is impossible, it is like comparing apples to oranges.


Are you sure about this?

The elderly are given drugs so they can sleep more so its less work for the staff.

The elderly are abuse by the staff

The elderly are left in their own waste

The elderly get poor and cold meals

The elderly in their own home only get a microwave meal. As the carers don't have enough time to cook them a meal

The elderly in their own home get abuse and rob

Do I need to say anymore?


I don't know why you are assuming I think rest homes are good places when I clearly describe rest homes as hell holes,,, I already know rest homes are hell holes.

But to say people that are in prison have it better is simply not true, I know for a fact people in prison do not get three hot meals a day for example, I also know a lot of people get beaten up in prison and are denied emergency services, I also know that people behind prison walls are cut off from the real world and cannot tell people themselves just how bad things are in prisons.

I do not describe rest homes as good places, and neither do I describe prisons as good places, their both run by the state and are used to warehouse people and to HOLD people there.

Abuses in both are common and regular and state sponsored and approved by the state, and it's the news medias job to hide and conceal the majority of such abuses.

I am not disagreeing with you in regards to rest homes being hell holes, I am disagreeing with you in the regards that you describe prisons as better than rest homes, because prisons are not better, except for the rich and influential.

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12 years 5 months ago #52165 by Karl
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Have you been in prison?

In Uk Prisons, they get

3 meals daily.

Gym

Pool Tables

Sky TV

I would say, this is better than care homes!

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